One Veg*n + One Omnivore = …
By Jenn | December 15, 2009
Recipe: take one happy veggie/veganish, and add one joyful omnivore. Combine them together in a warmed kitchen and… what happens?
I don’t need a partner to share my exact beliefs, nor should I be expected to share theirs. What I do consider a basic necessity is a shared level of understanding and compassion for the other– and from there, all kinds of good things can happen.
I’ve written before about my veganish ways– and, at home, I’m pretty much all vegan all the way. This doesn’t really even require any thought for me, it’s just the way I cook (whole grains + greens + beans or tofu) and bake (I’ve made some killer vegan baked goods in my time), and it keeps me healthy and happy.
My partner, on the other hand, smacks his hand on the table in delight when he’s eating a meat dish. When he visits, I won’t bring cured meats and hunks of artisinal cheese into my home for him– but I’m happy to provide a small container of local & organic milk for his morning coffee. The guy’s Italian, and I realize that whole milk in his coffee is a non-negotiable pleasure. So I partake in my beloved vanilla soy, almond, or oat milk while he drinks his own stuff. This small concession pays big joy rewards for him. Plus, my coffee-making skills apparently leave something to be desired, which pays big benefits for me!
When I first visited his home, he had taken care to have fresh fruits and veg on hand for me– including Sicilian peaches the size of my head, the most juicy and sweet cherry tomatoes I’d ever tasted, and olives that nearly made me pass out from pleasure. Best part was that all of these were local to him! There are benefits to living in a Mediterranean climate… And when he cooked us a pasta dish, he left out the cheese and just added it to his own portion at the end.
And of course, when we’re eating meals out, we each take care of ourselves while making sure the other has options. If we eat a a veg place then I make sure there are items which appeal to him, and if we eat at a regular place he takes care that there are good things on the menu for me.
I’d love to hear from ya’ll– is anyone in a partnership in which two differing food belief systems are represented? How do you approach cooking, shopping, and preparing food?
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Ah, food…definitely one of my favorite topics! We have similar issues in our house - I’m celiac (gluten-free) and mostly dairy-free and my husband loves the wheat and dairy goods. For my health and safety, we have to agree that wheat doesn’t come in the house very often. I only ever really let it cross the threshold when we have guests staying with us, who might want a sandwich. Feeding gluten-free bread to a crowd gets expensive fast! When wheat does come in the house, I have a special cutting board, and wheat stays on a separate counter, away from other cooking surfaces and no wheat may touch my toaster. If he wants dairy - he’s welcome to buy it, but generally doesn’t. My husband is totally fine with the way we eat - I’m a great cook, and he happily eats whatever I put on the table, so it works out well for both of us.
Hey Jenn– I knew you’d have lots to say on this subject! Seems like ya’ll have worked out a good understanding on the food issue and that there’s mutual respect both ways… and, if I had you as my personal great cook I’m sure there’d be no complaints either :)
My former husband ate meat and I was a vegetarian and then a vegan while we were married. I had been young and never had my own kitchen, so the idea of having a mixed kitchen in our home wasn’t a problem for me. Over the course of time (1999-2006), the meat policy varied a lot - it went from me purchasing for him conventional meat foods to the only meat he would bring into the house was locally grown and “processed.”
Fortunately, neither one of us are picky eaters, which made the logistics of vegan meals for two easier. Though there would be days he would just want meat. One way we often handle this is by making a vegan dinner at home and he would supplement with a meat-filled appetizer from a neighborhood restaurant.
My current partner is a l-o vegtn and I’m a vegan, but he’s cut most dairy & egg products out of his diet recently. When we do move in together, we plan to keep a vegan kitchen.
Stacey, love the idea of the carnivore supplementing their meat desires on the side, whether from a stock in the fridge or from a local restaurant– makes a lot of sense and is a great idea!
And that is why the omni/veg*n divide was the least of our problems :)
BTW, I sent you a very important fb message. VERY IMPORTANT!
We are a mixed vegetarian and omnivore house and this can work out really well. As the omnivore I don’t mind the occasional vegetarian dish. We have some cutting boards only for veg and we do cook in separate pans if meat is being made (often if it is a mixed dish one can cook the meat in a little pan and add to the vegetarian dish after). I have Crohn’s disease so the high fibre found in veg is an absolute nightmare. Something like a fresh raw salad can mean a visit to the ER, so we are both understanding of our ways. Besides any healthy plate of food contains three things, protein, starch and veg, it is only on the protein part we differ so the rest can be the same for both of us. It works so long as each person is respectful of the other’s choices, attempts at conversion or guilting someone into changing their eating habits are not going to work in the long run.
Hey Pipp– love that you guys have worked it out sweetly and easily. And, agreed that conversion attempts (either way) don’t work– nor does guilt (either way!)
I have also enjoyed trying some new protein options that my small farm town cooking skills were not aware of. Hallumi cheese with mango chuntey and quinoa, this is such a nice mix. I had never heard of hallumi or quinoa before but they are yummy and my tummy thinks so too. My partner enjoys my range of pasta sauces (without meat of course) which she never knew were so easy to make. Open minds is all it takes!
Funny– I just found a vegan Vodka Sauce recipe I want to try! There really are so many great options out there. Yay for open minds!
vodka sauce!! That sounds something that the in-laws would love… please pass it on!
It’s in the Veganomicon
cookbook — if you don’t have it, you can skip over to a bookstore and peek at the recipe! Am going to try and give it a test run this weekend… was so excited by it!
Just found the recipe online!
http://soytastic.vox.com/library/posts/tags/penne+vodka/
I think of Team Tiny Choices in this as well! we’ve managed to balance our different perspectives and dietary habits and goals in a very respectful way, and I think it’s reflected in our readership as well - we’ve been writing for two years here, and we haven’t had the almost-expected vegan/environmentalist/etc. fall out! Go Team!
Go Team!! We agree on so many things– cookies, in general; Momma Earth, overall; and lots of tea– that I think we’ve got this thing nailed. :)
I’m really curious how this works out for couples who decide to have children. In the last year and a half my one of my very few vegan friends and her omni-husband decided to have a baby. My friend and I are both nurses, but she took from all of our training that she had to eat dairy and eggs to have a safe and successful pregnancy (that’s not at all what I took from all our training, but I digress). So she went from being vegan to being vegetarian. Now a few months after the baby is born, she’s gone back to eating meat, because it’s “just easier.” Her husband is one of those people who feels like it’s not a meal unless there’s meat, and she got tired of there being two separate dinners (or lunches, whatever). So she’s back to being omni. I know several of my other married-with-kids friends were once vegan or vegetarian themselves, but are now omni for basically the same reason: it just gets really hard to maintain two meal rituals when you have to take care of kids at the same time- not to mention the omni parents who don’t want their children to be deprived of meat.
Since being veg, I did date one omni who was in the really respectful about my choices camp, but I really have no idea how that would have worked with kids, either (didn’t work out for non-related reasons, but still).
Anyone have any experience with that?
Hey Jodie– fascinating to read about your experience with your friends changing their food choices along with life circumstances. From a practical perspective, it certainly makes sense– who in the world had time or energy to prepare multiple sets of meals every day, while trying to work and raise kids? From my (childfree) point of view, I can’t see myself changing to omni due to this reason, but you know, I’ve never been in the situation. Guess it really comes down to continual personal choices which we can believe in, whatever those are.
While my former husband and I didn’t get to that point, we were planning to have children and the plan was to raise them vegan (with mamamilk, of course and being careful about nutrition) before they can make a choice, but once they are old enough to ask for it, allow them to have the meat.
Also, if you read my comment above, we never prepared 2 separate dinners, it would be veg*n food and he’d occasionally add on to it.
I am a l-o veg. He is a Texan CARNIVORE, who wouldn’t dream of eating a meatless meal. Plus, he likes highly processed foods. I love high quality, local, organic foods. I have a garden and am part of a CSA. He couldn’t care less.
It is very difficult for me!!!!
Thanks for bringin up the subject. Now, pls HELP! :)
Hey Heather! Not sure I’ve got specific help for you :) but some of the other comments may be useful– I particularly like the one about the omni providing their own meat when desired. That way the stews, soups, pastas & stir-fries can be prepared for both parties, with no one feeling left out. Seems like keeping some pre-cooked meat in the fridge/freezer would help with this too, if the omni isn’t on cooking duty that night.
Have you tried this? What do you think?
Actually you can go the eco meat route. If he truely LOVES meat then he should show that by wanting the best quality that he can afford. Meat which has been raised properly and given high quality feed really does have a different taste to it (around here they feed chickens some kind of fish pellets and the meat has the oddest smell and really is not the same taste as corn or grain feed). Corrn feed beef vs grain feed, there is a difference. Could you maybe foster his passion for meat into a gourmet situation… he would then be more interested in the local grown and non-traditional methods and breeds. While not vetoing the hot dog or cold cuts there is a difference in the quality he could buy.
Luckily for my husband, I was never much of a meat-eater before we met, and was already on the path to vegetarianism. He’s been a vegetarian for nearly 15 years, for me it’s closer to 6 years. After all this time, we just wouldn’t permit meat to be in our kitchen, on our dishes, or eaten with our utensils. The compromise is that I don’t care what friends eat when we are out, what they cook in their kitchens, etc., as long as they are cautious in using different utensils for cooking meat and veggie stuff. I worry about cross contamination since veggies aren’t usually cooked to the same temp that meats are. It’s such a huge part of our shared life choice and philosophy that I honestly don’t see how we could get around it if we fundamentally disagreed. It baffles me how dedicated vegetarians could buy and prepare meat for someone they loved. If I love the person, and think eating meat is morally/physically/spiritually/ecologically wrong, I couldn’t contribute to their eating it.
Hey PDG– thanks for your comment! Personally I agree that I couldn’t prepare meat for anyone at this point, and to be honest even buying a small container of milk for my partner doesn’t thrill me, but it’s a tiny choice I can live with. While I couldn’t go much further past that, I do understand that everyone makes their own choices, as I make mine, so I try to remain as flexible as I can :) Nice that you don’t have to think about this situation in your home– certainly does make things easier!
I compromise too! I’m not totally unreasonable. ;) I have served meat at emergency food kitchens (and helped prepare it - by stirring tunafish into a giant vat of pasta salad), if I am a guest, I clear and clean dishes veggie or not, and a couple times when I have known someone in need who wanted meat, I have bought it for them. But when it comes to my kitchen and my dishes, I do get very picky about it. ; )
Jenn, sounds lovely!
My husband eats meat and I don’t, and he is very cool about not having it at home. Every few months he does get real sausage (which has its very own cooking pan) but besides that we never cook meat in our house which makes me very happy. He orders it at restaurants all he wants of course! I do eat fish sometimes so that bridges the gap a lot, but we both eat vegetarian almost all the time at our house, and I honestly think the cooking is a lot more fun and interesting this way.
FWIW, we’re raising our daughter to share my diet instead of his until she’s old enough to choose what she wants. She goes to a Waldorf school where the kids help cook their own vegetarian meals and it’s been really cool to see her enjoying food so much!
This book is on my Christmas list - it’s by a friend of mine here in town. She’s a meat-eater married to a vegetarian. She shares tons of recipes that can be adapted to be vegan, meat, or vegetarian with a few ingredient switches. I’ll report back!
http://www.amazon.com/Adaptable-Feast-Satisfying-Vegetarians-Omnivores/dp/1570615837/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1260934400&sr=8-1
I am mostly-vegan and my fiance is omni. We don’t live together yet, so it’s not an issue, but when he is visiting my house he is perfectly happy to eat whatever vegetarian meal has been prepared. We’ve discussed it and agreed that when we live together we will mainly eat vegan–he can have packaged cheese and meat in the house as long as it’s not going to contaminate my food! Of course, when we go out he can eat meat, and he can add it to things if he wants, but I won’t cook meat for him and he says he probably won’t bother adding meat to things. We’ve also agreed that when we have kids they will be vegan until they’re old enough to understand my reasons for veganism, at which point they can make their own choices. We’ll see how it works out.
The funny thing is he agrees with my reasons for not eating meat or dairy (mostly anti-factory-farming), but just doesn’t feel strongly enough about it to do anything at this point…
Clare,
Why don’t you encourage him to look for sustainable meat and dairy options? That is what my husband and I do. We are still eating an omnivore diet but our meat and dairy choices are made with our dislike of factory farming and preference for organic, local, and sustainable in mind, and we don’t eat it with every meal.
Hi Karen,
He actually does prefer organic meats, but he’s still living with his family and isn’t in charge of buying. I think when we have our own place and our own grocery shopping any meat he buys will probably be organic. Personally, I’m hoping he eventually gives up on trying to eat meat at all ;)
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